Ethan Luck (of every band) is Nate's neighbor in Nashville, and a mutual friend of ours. Ethan currently works for Kings of Leon, but is also known for his work playing drums in Relient K and guitar in The Supertones, among a hundred other things.

In this conversation, we discuss Kryptonite, hustle, the music industry and what is required to "make it," old Tooth & Nail bands, Matt calls in from the road, Nate hits (and coughs) on Ethan's vape, cracks a thousand jokes, and does a masterful job wrangling the conversation to the topic of Ethan's music career.

Ethan's podcast is called The Pirate Satellite (http://www.ethanluck.com/thepiratesatellite/)

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