In this episode of the Kate Bush Fan Podcast, Seán introduces Darrell's chat with Pat Martin, bass guitarist with British band Unicorn. Because of his close association with Dave Gilmour of Pink Floyd, he was asked to play for the young Cathy Bush's first ever recording at the age of fifteen in 1973. Pat can be heard on 'Passing Through Air' from this session which was released as a B-side to 'Army Dreamers' in 1980. The late, Ricky Hopper is also discussed. It was through him that Kate's music was heard in the first place, championing her relentlessly. We get to hear how Pat was invited to this session at Gilmour's house, and his fond remembrances of the young and shy Cathy. He knew there was something very special and that here was an artist, sure and confident about her craft. We also get to hear wonderful stories about Pat's involvement with Unicorn, and the amazing artists they worked with, including Patti Smith, Fleetwood Mac and Linda Rondstadt among many otters. Unicorn's song 'Ooh Mother' was recently played in the USA TV drama 'Paradise'. It has resulted in the song being streamed 115k times on Spotify. It's worth a listen.