What is the 1st Due Conference? Simply put, it is the best fire service conference in the state of North Carolina. In the conversation host Steve and Matt chat with the host/director/creator of the 1st Due Conference Chief Griffen. This is a shorter episode than normal but the intent is to promote the new and forever changing ideas of the conference. Now don't get disappointed! Steve and Matt always make to sure to venture off topic or go down a rabbit hole. This episode is no different! We also had the pleasure of allowing Chief Griffen to choose the winners of the free registration give away. Thank you Chief for joining us and allowing us the opportunity to help promote the conference.

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