In this false starting episode, our heroes are joined by Katrina Griffiths (co-host of @veritypodcast & @xanister on Twitter) to talk about her new podcast, Start The Music! (@startmusicpod) where she dives into where music begins, BEFORE the rest of us hear it.  James steers the conversation into the idea of "hate" in art, Joey insists on "taking the money," and they come to the conclusion that censorship is tricky.  Of note, Mary Lee piped up afterwards with a warning about the legal ramifications of the line where art crosses into hate...  but it was after the group was cut off by the hour time limit, which is already longer than these hosts should ever talk.