In this week's Podcast Kevin chats with David Heinemeier Hansson, the CTO and co-founder of Basecamp.

Basecamp is a web-based project management tool that was launched in 2004 and has over 100 000 paying customers. Basecamp received no seed funding and was entirely bootstrapped. Jeff Bezos - the founder of Amazon - acquired a minority stake in Basecamp in 2006.

David is also the creator of Ruby on Rails, a best-selling author of the books REWORK and REMOTE and a Le Mans class-winning racing driver!

David discusses bootstrapping vs raising venture money when starting a business and offers advice to those wanting to build a business by bootstrapping. He gives his opinion on Donald Trump and the tech industry's approach to working with Trump. David also shares tips like using negative visualisation to deal with uncertainty around the future.

David is a very smart and interesting person and you no doubt will enjoy this interview.

Co-hosts Kevin Garber and Kate Frappell also chat about the latest tech news including WhatsApp testing letting users recall and edit sent messages; thinnest-ever temporary tattoo like health sensor developed capable of health monitoring with similar precision that is provided by much bulkier equipment; researchers also create low-cost wearable wireless hydration sensor that can detect dehydration before it poses a problem.

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