Everyone sees the bite.
Everyone sees the videos.
But behind every deployment — there’s a handler who carries the weight of getting it right.

On this episode, Alison and Michael sit down with Jay Nix and Mike Lilley to talk about the realities of the K9 world: the wins, the failures, the responsibility of developing dog teams that protect communities, and the need for clearer standards in a rapidly changing industry.

You’ll hear perspectives forged through actual street work, unit leadership, and years spent developing dogs that perform when it counts.

This conversation brings the truth to the front — for dog people, handlers, and anyone who cares about the future of working dogs.

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