In this episode, we talk about rebranding to a more casual format, so we decided to start Casual Catch-ups to just talk about things that we've been into lately, because at the end of the day, this podcast is for us to make the effort to communicate with each other. Apologies for my mic quality - I messed up recording somewhere along the way.

Show Notes:

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