Ben is joined by Paul Prescod to talk about his Jacobin article "Trump Claims He's Pro-Worker. But His Labor Board Is Trying to Destroy Worker Organizing." (https://jacobinmag.com/2020/09/trump-national-labor-relations-board-nlrb) Then Daniel Bessner, Shawn Gude, and returning champion Harvey J. Kaye join the podcast for a panel on Eugene V. Debs and the what the socialist left can learn from its early history. At the end David Griscom comes back for another installment of "Outlaws and Revolutionaries" where he and Ben talk about mezcal and the music of Guy Clark.