This episode we get fired up about tails of dragons reading A Natural History of Dragons by Marie Brennan and Dragonflight by Anne McCaffrey. We go on flights of fancy about class, the dragons that surround us, and why Anne McCaffery should’ve scaled back on the Pern books.

We’re joined by Gina Rushton, Buzzfeed reporter, and James Baxter-Gilbert, resident IRL dragon expert (did you think we would just wing it?).

Give it a listen, we promise not to drag on.