This time on Gathering Ground, Mary and Teresa have some "real talk" about women's funds and philanthropy; Ms. Foundation's new strategic plan (which centers women and girls of color); and current foundation trends and the state of philanthropy for women and girls in the United States. Then, they give listeners some advice, including what to do if you and your supervisor are both burnt out.

If you live in Chicago, be sure to catch Teresa the evening of October 17th at Chicago African Americans in Philanthropy's event Connecting Communities and Philanthropy. For more information or to register for the event, click here.