Jen Sadler is experienced in those roles where HR and L&D are closely interlocked. Sometimes so closely they’re the same person. We have a great chat about:

·       Getting from transactional to strategic.

·       Lauren’s imposter syndrome rears its head again, this time about being in the team HR meetings and what I’m working on vs the rest of the team’s “Very serious and important” projects/issues

·       Jen’s vision – nurturing that positive work environment

·       Jen is playing 4D chess – instead of just solving performance problems, arrange the environment in a way that they don’t happen in the first place.

·       Business values – not just getting people to remember them, but using them as our north star to shape our focus.

·       Jen quotes something I said in a previous episode (omg!!)

·       Small business shouldn’t have to choose between HR and L&D.

·       CLIMBS model – a step by step journey to higher performance, with L&D and HR as equally necessary contributors (and winners)

·       Why “you should do a session on that” is the best tool in your L&D kit

02:58 The Intersection of HR and L&D

06:24 Proactive Performance Management

21:00 Balancing Organizational and People's Needs

33:54 Practical Application and Continuous Learning