In this episode, Ingmar and Johan had a conversation with Bob Jansen and discussed how he went from EUC to Farming. Bob is an industry veteran and well known for founding RES Software which got acquired by Ivanti. Throughout the episode Bob explained how his can-do mentality led to founding RES, continously exploring new innovations, both in technology and in life, and why he joined the board of Liquit. We wrapped up the episode with asking the question "If you could go back in time and change one thing, what would that be?", which led to a very insightful and personal answer.