Deb and Maury catch up after taking some time off for the winter holidays. They share what they each have been reading and listening to, and how these relate to what they've been discussing on the podcast. They also read and respond to some listener comments and questions before delving back into the Case of the German Architect. The two attempt to look at the case from a relational perspective to account for alternative conceptualizations of what could be happening in the session.

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Joseph, M. (2025). The spirit of ISTDP. Journal of contemporaryISTDP 2(1). Klein, E. (Host). (Jan 2, 2026). This Question Can Change Your Life (Podcast episode). The Ezra Klein Show.

Raubolt, R. (2006). Power games: Influence, persuasion, and indoctrination in psychotherapy training. Other Press.

Zeig, J. K. (2014). The induction of hypnosis: An Ericksonian elicitation approach (1st ed.). Milton H. Erickson Foundation Press.

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