In this episode, Cathy sits down with Anne Gloger, who has been shift disturbing for 20 years as the founding director of East Scarborough Storefront and the Centre for Connected Communities. Anne speaks candidly about her journey towards seeing funders as true partners in the work of community building and discusses how difficult it can be to make magic visible to donors. What magic, you ask? The magic that happens when you bring together anyone and everyone who want to help the community thrive. For all you reluctant or resistant fundraisers out there, this is the episode for you!