Play is the thing

Episode 8 with Jason Perez


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Where to start? Max starts off comparing Jason to a burlesque dancer, then Jason sings to illustrate the concept of trauma. 
They talk about a ton of games they love and end up debating whether flow is a self-centred phenomenon!
Who is Jason, you may ask... Listen to find out.
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Play is the thingBy Dr Max Davie, Developmental Paediatrician