Karen and Dan have a wonderfully detailed chat about the four pillars of health, sleep being one of the most important, and the one we often don't pay enough attention to. Dan runs the company Ancestral health and helps clients get to the root cause of their illness. He carries out GI Map testing and helps clients understand what may be happenin in the gut, along with the correct protocols to embark upon to start the repair process. Perhaps after listening to this you'll want to experiment with getting outside more, downing the technology at night and reading a real life book before nodding off to sleep.

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