In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, Chris and Karolyn discuss what has proven effective in developing permanent supportive housing. Drawing from direct experience, they share the approaches, priorities, and practical considerations that shaped their work and continue to guide how they operate today.

This episode is for anyone interested in permanent supportive housing who wants a clearer sense of what works in practice - from the perspective of people who have done the work and seen the results.

Part 2 continues the conversation with additional context and broader takeaways.