Our first episode without Andrew the Producer, who has stepped out of the podcast world for the time being. We explain why, and talk about how John is taking over his place, wearing two hats in the studio. Of course we manage to get some 4x4 talk into the episode as well, and we are finally up to date on the Patreon aftershow. Important news and updates regarding that as well!

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