Developer tools have changed wildly over the past 10 years from build tools to IDEs. The IDEs available have not only increased, but usage of each has grown. In this episode, Richard & Coté talk with Martin Lippert about Spring Tools 4. And, as always, we cover some recent news in the cloud, infrastructure, and development spaces, plus, the squirrels of Coté's yard.

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