Nathaniel Miller and Kevin Fiscus, a bona fide tomato hater, stopped by for Episode 84. Nate is the Interactivity Editor for the Sacramento Bee and Kevin is a professional photographer who partners with Nate for Sacramento Journalism Review.

Nate and Kevin chat with me about “goat hornets“; how they got Sacramento Journalism Review started; what led them to pursuing careers in journalism and photography (hint: smoking ganja in the dark room for one of them); the X-rated Sacramento Journalism Review; why certain types of boots require you to walk backwards when going up stairs; and the Cascadia Subduction Zone bringing the beach closer to Sacramento.