Dan is joined by actress, dancer, singer, and the woman behind Rita in Groundhog Day, Elise McCann! That's right, I'm continuing my podcast within a podcast as I talk to as many of the creatives from the show as I possibly can throughout the rest of the year.

It goes without saying that we talk about Groundhog Day. We also talk about Elise's work on Matilda, shifting perspective through anxiety, being an active participant in life, the love of telling stories, questioning her capabilities, being consumed in what other people thought, rebuilding resilience, stuff ups on stage, becoming calmer, building a community in the theatre world, being able to separate identify from the show, becoming better at saying goodbye, Hey Lemonade, Tim Minchin's amazing lyrics, just having yourself to look after, saying yes to every opportunity, redefining failure, struggling with perfection, and a whole lot more!

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