Episode 84 Notes and Links to Noah Hurowitz’s Work
Noah Hurowitz is a journalist based in New York City. He covered the trial of El Chapo for Rolling Stone, and his work has also appeared in The Village Voice, The Baffler, New York magazine, and many more. El Chapo: The Untold Story of the World's Most Infamous Drug Lord is his first book.
On Episode 84 of The Chills at Will Podcast, Pete welcomes Noah Hurowitz, passionate reader, journalist, and the author of El Chapo: The Untold Story of the World’s Most Infamous Drug Lord. The two talk about, among other topics, Noah’s varied reading, his process in seeking out and writing stories, the way in which he was approached to write his book, and the specifics of the well-researched book and Noah’s purpose in writing the book about a seemingly-never-ending “War on Drugs.”
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From September 13, 2021, Yahoo News: “The little-known story of how Joaquín 'El Chapo' Guzmán tried to bring down friends and enemies from behind bars”
At about 1:15, Noah talks about his recently-published book and his purpose and thesis for the book
At about 3:40, Noah talks about why he calls his book a “popular history” and shouts out Benjamin Smith’s writing
At about 6:30, Noah outlines his early relationship with language and reading
At about 10:30, Noah discusses being energized and inspired by other works, with a special admiration for and love of Roberto Bolano’s work
At about 12:20, Pete and Noah converse about unassigned reading and the love of reading and ways to foster it
At about 14:20, Noah lays out his recent reading habits and purpose in reading
At about 17:10, Pete asks Noah about his process in looking for story ideas, and Noah talks about the way in which he reads
At about 21:20, Noah discusses a “vague idea to write” and how he started thinking of writing as a concrete possibility through his time at The University of Southern Maine, and how he thought of himself as a “writer, not a reporter” for a while
At about 23:00, Noah responds to Pete’s question about the genesis of Noah’s book about Él Chapo
At about 25:45, Noah reads an excerpt from his book that juxtaposes Jesus Malverde and El Chapo Guzman
At about 32:00, Noah discusses the excerpt and some of the historical context that surrounds the writing, including some history of Sinaloa
At about 33:40, Noah explains the setting of small-town Sinaloa, especially Badiriguato and El Chapo’s La Tuna hometown and what Noah was hoping to accomplish when he traveled there three times
At about 35:20, Noah recounts an interesting anecdote in which a young kid asked him about El Chapo and its connection to the people of Sinaloa and their relationship with El Chapo and the effects of the drug trade
At about 39:40, Noah discusses the pull of big drug money for residents in Sinaloa
At about 42:15, Noah restates his thesis statement from the book, in response to a question posed in the book by an associate/family member of El Chapo; Noah thinks about how he would respond to the question if he were asked again today
At about 46:05, Pete wonders about a “starting point” or “turning point” of the drug war, and Noah discusses pivotal points and the huge uptick in violence; this includes bubbling violence in Nuevo Laredo around 2003
At about 53:00, Noah talks about the uptick in violence with Felipe Calderón’s installation as the Mexican President in 2006/2007, with Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez seeing “intense, public violence”
At about 58:15, Pete asks Noah about the circumstances of the murder of Mexican Archbishop Juan Jesus Posadas Ocampo
At about 1:01:00, Noah talks about the state working in tandem with El Chapo
At about 1:02:15, Noah explains the ways in which violence unfolded around 2007 in Ciudad Juarez and the specific conditions and context that made the violence so brutal
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