<p>A quickly aborted exploration of pavement turns into a spirited discussion of why someone in North Korea with a laptop can turn off America's electric grid.</p>

A quickly aborted exploration of pavement turns into a spirited discussion of why someone in North Korea with a laptop can turn off America's electric grid.

episode 842

The podcast that's 40 years in the making, because they're both procrastinators. Comedy writer Tom Saunders and political comedian Scott Blakeman help you navigate The New Normal, which is The Old Normal for them, since their comedy careers already require that they spend huge amounts of time at home. Their show peers back into the past, stares unflinchingly at the present, and imagines a more hopeful future, with flights of fancy and many tangents as well.

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