accounting firms and accounting apps need marriage counseling. so Kellie Parks (Calmwaters Cloud Accounting) joins Tom to provide just that.

they cover how to sell to accountants, how accountants can give better feedback to partners, why relationships outside the product matter, and more.

and if any of that bores you... fly fishing, Olympic doping, creatine use in the accounting world, and the mafia are also topics of discussion. something for everyone!