Dan Millman is a former world champion athlete, university coach, martial arts instructor, and college professor. He has written 17 books along the way.

In this episode, Dan and Mark discuss becoming the best version of ourselves. Dan reminds listeners that effort IS success, and happiness or success is progress toward a meaningful goal. They also discuss how all we can do is learn to surf the waves of life, how stress happens when the mind resists what is, and the importance of motion on your path.