Join Tammy Coron and Tim Mitra on Episode 88, which was recorded on June 14, 2017.

On this episode we talk with Johanna Rothman.

Johanna is best known as the Pragmatic Manager. She provides frank advice for your tough problems, often with a little humor. She also publishes a close-to-monthly email newsletter, aptly titled The Pragmatic Manager, and she has written more books than I can count on my two hands.

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