We talk with Malakaï Sargeant and Bayan Goudarzpour about Malakaï's poem 'A Collection Of Grey Thoughts'. We talk how much of yourself you owe to the poem, how to work out what it is you're not saying, how to stop individual things from feeling disparate.
We use Stephanie Rogers' boss poem Fat Girl Ghazal as a reference - you can read it in Copper Nickel and check out her other stuff on her website.