In this episode we are joined by Bishop David Bard, the episcopal leader of the Michigan Annual Conference. Bishop Bard is currently overseeing the merger of the Detroit and West Michigan conferences. We begin our conversation with a question about what makes the One Church Plan a Methodist plan. He shares that conflict in the church is nothing new and reminds us all that the world is indeed a hurting place and that person who you share the news of Jesus with, doesn't care much about this fight.