Esther chats with Kat Chen, NYU Class of 2020. Kat shares her firsthand encounters with failures of the criminal justice system, and the lessons she’s learned from protesting for the past year. Esther and Kat discuss how the model minority myth fosters anti-Blackness in the Asian community, and the need for empathetic cross-cultural dialogue in activism.

Content warning ⚠️: discussion of attempted vehicular manslaughter