Do animals matter in politics? Can animal political parties be successful? Will anthropocentric politics save us as a society and species? What does animal politics offer in a world of growing far-right populism? 

On this episode, I speak with Eva van Esch, chair of the Animal Politics Foundation, a political mobilization arm of the Dutch Party for the Animals. We talk about all of the above and so much more. I hope you enjoy the episode, thank you for listening.