In this episode of Developers After Dark, host Nick and co-host Dennis, AJ, and Steve are joined by a special guest, Jonna. With the absence of Dill, who is expected to return soon, the team embarks on an engaging conversation covering various topics. Jonna, a member of the ecosystem quality team at HubSpot, shares her fascinating journey into the tech world, starting from business management studies to working on a cruise ship, and ultimately finding her passion in technology and app quality reviews. The episode also dives into light-hearted debates, such as audiobooks versus reading, favorite ice cream flavors, and the challenges of balancing passion and data in making compelling cases. Packed with humor, heartfelt advice, and insightful discussions, this episode offers a deep dive into the unique journeys of tech professionals while emphasizing the importance of listening, learning, and leveraging both passion and metrics in the professional world.