After it was revealed that Richard Spencer may come to U-M to speak, Hoai An Pham gathered with other student and community organizers in the coalition #StopSpencer. In the RC Podcast's 10th episode, RC senior Hoai An reflects on what she learned organizing as a student, as a Vietnamese woman, and as someone who had to "unlearn" messages that had penetrated her beliefs. She discusses her journey from pre-med to RC's STP major, and gives us a sense for what it's like to be one of U-M's carillonneurs.