It was a hot and stormy Friday night in Cincinnati. Two podcast hosts were tired, but one brought wine. In this episode, Rachel and Rebecca basically just get a lil' tipsy and talk (or maybe ASMR-whisper??) about pop music and queso dip for ninety minutes. Just let us have it.

Originally recorded 8/27/21.

If you’re interested in reading more about the social concept of “guilty pleasures” and why it sometimes feels so bad to feel good, check out these articles from the New York Times and Psychology Today.

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