In this episode Nick and Thomas had the awesome opportunity of interviewing Dr. Matthew Bates, Assistant Professor of Theology at Quincy University and author of the book that we've been raving about, Salvation by Allegiance Alone. Matt shares with us his understanding of the gospel, the meaning and role of pistis (faith/allegiance), and even a pretty bad pastor's joke. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did. You can order his book at https://www.amazon.com/Salvation-Allegiance-Alone-Rethinking-Gospel/dp/0801097975/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8