On todays show we are talking all things ecology, conservation grazing and bringing ponies on ready for the outside world with my guest Nicola Evans whose Helmside ponies graze on The Helm outside Kendal, Nicola also sits on the Fell Pony Society’s Conservation sub group.

Nicola talks about the ups and the downs, problems and pitfalls of conservation grazing , combining ecology, agriculture and business and producing riding ponies for the big wide world

Nicola talks about the Helmside prefix, breeding without owning your own stallion, handling un-handled youngsters, the Fell Pony Display Team, Fell Pony Camp and managing the dynamics of a herd