Sam joins Ben for his podcast debut. We get everything from toilet roll placement, Sheryl Crow's insanity, how much to fit on a bagging area, Bull Buchanan's fire alarm business to live-action chair building shenanigans.

Mrs. Rantermeisters gets involved and drops a bombshell that when talking about Buchanans she prefers Neil to Bull. I could see her logic in the end (more because I look like the Head).

We finish off discussing the mighty Brian Blessed and what face Bernard Cribbins would have pulled if the Wombles had had fart issues!