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When we live in a world that is full of comfort and convenience, whether it's one that we have been blessed with or that we have built for ourselves, we live outside reality. Suffering helps bring us back to reality. In this conversation, the guys discuss the down side of not going through suffering and how it can deceive us away from the truth. 

For more conversations and great thoughts on suffering and Christianity, be sure to check out the rest of the podcast.

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