In this episode Kathryn Glowinski helps the team lean into the drift theme pretty hard - answering questions about how companies approach information security in a world where AI enables almost anyone take a reasonable shot at accessing information they have no right to. While AI in its current state allows people to skip developing expertise, the group considers how effective this actually is today. Unsurprisingly the conversation goes a bit down the nerd mine with some strong analogies using world of warcraft - so approach with caution.