There’s a ton of focus placed on the problem of phishing attacks – and rightly so; a recent global study has phishing listed as both the most often used initial attack vector and the more frequent attack type involved in experienced cyberattacks. But the real problem isn’t so much the phishing, but the underlying social engineering used within these campaigns – something that has spread to be used on other mediums including phone, text, the web, etc. – that actually makes these attacks successful. In this episode of the podcast, we'll talk with Perry Carpenter, Chief Evangelist & Strategy Officer at KnowBe4 about why social engineering works and what it really takes to get employees to be vigilant and not fall for this modern trickery.