What happens when two of the hottest presentation podcasts team up for one big joint episode? No holds barred presentation MAGIC. 

That's right, we teamed up with the good folks over at The Presentation Podcast, a long running podcast hosted by 3 of the most knowledgable presentation designers out there, Troy Chollar, Nolan Haims and Sandy Johnson, and created one big mega episode that will run concurrently on both podcasts. 

In this episode, we talk about everything from Mac vs. PC, to the future of presentations, to the pros and cons of animation, and much more. This is one episode you don't want to miss. Jole may or may not sing this time.

The Presentation Podcast: https://thepresentationpodcast.com/

Troy Chollar: http://www.tlccreative.com/

Nolan Haims: https://www.nolanhaimscreative.com/

Sandy Johnson: https://presentationwiz.biz/