Join Chefs Todd Richards and Stephan Berrouet-Durand in conversation with HRN's own Zella Palmer!

Dr. Zella Palmer is a professor, food historian, author, and filmmaker, and serves as the chair and director of the Dillard University Ray Charles Program in African American Material Culture in New Orleans, Louisiana. Check out her latest documentary here: The Story of New Orleans Creole.

Also, check out Todd Richards' second book from which this podcast receives its name!

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