In this episode, Susan speaks with retired corporate attorney Jim Bays. A graduate of Dartmouth College and the University of Virginia Law School, Jim has turned his passionate interest in Thomas Jefferson and the legal foundation of the United States into several OLLI courses. He talks with Susan about the life of Jefferson and the series of compromises that were involved in creating a working constitution for the country.

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