On this week's episode of SABRcast Rob Neyer is joined by Gary Ashwill, noted author, researcher, analyst and co-founder of the Seamheads.com Negro League Database. The pair discuss the origins of Gary's Negro Leagues research and the significance of last week's recognition of the Negro Leagues as a major league. Then Rob and SABR CEO Scott Bush continue the conversation on that historical development and give a winner of the weekend from the gridiron with a baseball connection. For show notes, extra content, and a list of what Rob's reading, visit the SABRcast website at https://sabr.org/sabrcast.