Geoff and Joe reflect on their conversation with Bishop Jim Hazelwood, discussing his legacy in the New England Synod. Joe shares a heartwarming story of a two-year-old boy who ushered during a church service, highlighting the importance of intergenerational connections.

Geoff and Joe also discuss their plans for a new Bible study podcast, inviting listeners to submit their ideas. They later discuss the need for churches to adapt to the post-COVID world, building relationships and trust among churches, and navigating church governance and conflict resolution. They also share their perspectives on leading the church in a rapidly changing world and the importance of youth ministry in the future of the church.

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