I sit down with Jodi Dykstra and Brendon Enders, both Enneagram 4s, who share all of their experiences as Individualists and Romantics.  They talk about being in touch with their own emotions and wishing others were too, the push-pull of being accepted vs. being unique, and the way that creativity and artistry has played a role in their lives.

We also talk about the movie phenomenon...the idea that Enneagram 4s see the world around them like a movie and their lives as a role within it...plus they share their best advice for other Enneagram 4s out there and their best advice for loving an Enneagram 4 well.

Listen in today on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, jennvanhekken.com/podcast, or anywhere you get your favorite podcast episodes!

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