In this thought-provoking episode, the 2 bald pastors sit down with Dr. Charles Stallworth, a pastor and former state representative, to explore the critical intersection of faith and politics.

Dr. Stallworth shares his personal experiences and insights on navigating the complex landscape of civic engagement, offering wisdom on how to maintain principles while also fostering civility and finding common ground. The conversation delves into the troubling rise of Christian nationalism, and Dr. Stallworth challenges the church to boldly confront injustice and speak truth, while also lifting up examples of faithful, compassionate leadership.

He emphasizes the importance of humility, whether in victory or defeat, and encourages congregations to get involved in shaping public policy in ways that reflect the values of the gospel. This episode provides a timely and thought-provoking perspective for pastors and believers seeking to faithfully engage in the public square during this polarized era.