In this episode, the two Matts showcase a clip from the highest-rated writing sitcom on television, switch the normal positions of whose written the most out of the two of us, keep forcing a metaphor about roller coasters or some junk, and talk about keeping readers' interest in the climax of a story. What are some ways you could potentially lose your reader during such a pivotal moment in your narrative? What are some things the characters can do to keep them active? What about stories with or without big battles? What kind of liver does Matt Donald have that makes him tipsy after just a few sips of hard lemonade? We discuss it all, reaching the peak of perfection in such a climactic moment, and talk about The Lord of the Rings, Stephen King's It, The Andromeda Strain, and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 for some reason.

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