In this episode, we invited Barrett Tillman--head of brewing operations at Deep Ellum Brewing Co. in Dallas--in the studio to tell us about some of the things DEBC has recently been up to and their 6th year of the Labor of Love homebrewing competition. Then we continue our Belgian beer discussion by diving into BJCP category 26C, the Tripel style. Plus, we also talk about how you can measure your ABV using your refractometer and an app or online calculator.