Marc Driesenga and my favorite girl, Kaitlyn Van Hekken, sit down and talk all things Enneagram 6.  We talk about loyalty, fear, and why T-Charts and Venn Diagrams are their favorite tools for decision-making.

Plus...we talk honestly about anxiety and mental illness, the way that they each deal with those in authority, and why Allyship is so important to both of them.  

Listen in as Marc and Kaitlyn share what it's like to face their fears and step forward courageously into the future...even when they're scared of the consequences.  Find this episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, jennvanhekken.com/podcast, or anywhere you find your favorite podcast episodes.

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