The one where we investigate the latest UAP craze and its many proponents, discuss the psychology of ufology, excavate the 1947 Roswell "crashed saucer" story, ruminate over the life and mind of “Close Encounters Man” J. Allen Hynek, and gawk at a plethora of funny lights in the sky with veteran UFO Skeptics Michael Shermer and Robert Sheaffer.

Brought to you by a little blue pill that will keep you from having to think for yourself all the time.  ...Or is it the red pill?  Better take both to make sure. 

Time Stamps:
0:00:00  Introduction
0:04:42  Interview with Michael Shermer (par 1)
1:10:54 A Word from our sponsor  
1:13:58  Interview with Michael Shermer (part 2)
1:50:20   Closing credits
(NOTE: None of these timestamps swallowed the red pill)

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